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		<title>By: Mark Hartzer</title>
		<link>http://tauntermedia.com/2009/12/11/blame/#comment-1774</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post.  Ages ago, there was even a slogan:  &quot;Fifty four forty or Fight!&quot;  Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed.  Sad that Pakistan&#039;s leaders have chosen such a doomed issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Ages ago, there was even a slogan:  &#8220;Fifty four forty or Fight!&#8221;  Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed.  Sad that Pakistan&#8217;s leaders have chosen such a doomed issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Taunter</title>
		<link>http://tauntermedia.com/2009/12/11/blame/#comment-1771</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure how much authority Sharif ever had during the Kargil fighting.  We have a pretty rare chain of command; in most countries the military more or less does what it wants to do, and politicians consider themselves lucky if the military sticks to fighting external foes.

Of all the many reasons for the creation of Pakistan, opposition to land reform is likely not a major one: Pakistan and India came into existence at the same time, and few would have predicted the directions each took.  Pakistan at origin was simply the Muslim-majority regions of British India, minus Jammu and Kashmir, plus, for a brief moment in time, Junagadh, an overwhelmingly Hindu princely state whose Nawab decided to accede to Pakistan.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mofa.gov.pk/Maps/PAK_Administrative.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;current official map&lt;/a&gt; of Pakistan still shows it in green.  Just goes to show how little logic is used in the India-Pakistan debate...and how unwilling each side is to allow local populations to declare independence.

It so happens that as soon as Jinnah died, the people of Pakistan discovered that their country was defined by a negative sign: it is the not-India, the alternative state defined by the religion of its residents.  It was ruled by its small military clique, and that group rapidly got down to the business of milking the state.  In that sense, if no other, Pakistan is probably the rightful heir to the mahrajas who ruled all of the princely states with such studied disdain for the well-being of their subjects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how much authority Sharif ever had during the Kargil fighting.  We have a pretty rare chain of command; in most countries the military more or less does what it wants to do, and politicians consider themselves lucky if the military sticks to fighting external foes.</p>
<p>Of all the many reasons for the creation of Pakistan, opposition to land reform is likely not a major one: Pakistan and India came into existence at the same time, and few would have predicted the directions each took.  Pakistan at origin was simply the Muslim-majority regions of British India, minus Jammu and Kashmir, plus, for a brief moment in time, Junagadh, an overwhelmingly Hindu princely state whose Nawab decided to accede to Pakistan.  The <a href="http://www.mofa.gov.pk/Maps/PAK_Administrative.jpg" rel="nofollow">current official map</a> of Pakistan still shows it in green.  Just goes to show how little logic is used in the India-Pakistan debate&#8230;and how unwilling each side is to allow local populations to declare independence.</p>
<p>It so happens that as soon as Jinnah died, the people of Pakistan discovered that their country was defined by a negative sign: it is the not-India, the alternative state defined by the religion of its residents.  It was ruled by its small military clique, and that group rapidly got down to the business of milking the state.  In that sense, if no other, Pakistan is probably the rightful heir to the mahrajas who ruled all of the princely states with such studied disdain for the well-being of their subjects.</p>
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		<title>By: CrocodileChuck</title>
		<link>http://tauntermedia.com/2009/12/11/blame/#comment-1769</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a wee correction to a fine post:  the numbers of Muslims in Pakistan and India are equivalent:  157M.  This does not diminish Taunter&#039;s point above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a wee correction to a fine post:  the numbers of Muslims in Pakistan and India are equivalent:  157M.  This does not diminish Taunter&#8217;s point above.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://tauntermedia.com/2009/12/11/blame/#comment-1766</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to add that in 1999 Nawaz Sharif ordered troops to withdraw from Kargil and seemed on the verge of negotiating peace with India.  General Musharaf ousted him soon after.   I wisk I knew more about Pakistanis reaction to this.  From newspaper editorials at the time it seemed that although their democracy was replaced with a military dictatorship, many people were happy with the increased law and order.   

Also, I have heard people say that a large motivation for the creation of Pakistan was India&#039;s aggressive land reform plans.  Large landowners in what is now Pakistan wanted to hold onto their land holdings.  Would be interested to hear other people&#039;s opinions on the truth of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to add that in 1999 Nawaz Sharif ordered troops to withdraw from Kargil and seemed on the verge of negotiating peace with India.  General Musharaf ousted him soon after.   I wisk I knew more about Pakistanis reaction to this.  From newspaper editorials at the time it seemed that although their democracy was replaced with a military dictatorship, many people were happy with the increased law and order.   </p>
<p>Also, I have heard people say that a large motivation for the creation of Pakistan was India&#8217;s aggressive land reform plans.  Large landowners in what is now Pakistan wanted to hold onto their land holdings.  Would be interested to hear other people&#8217;s opinions on the truth of this.</p>
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